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Sunday May 1st @ 9pm Est
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CommentPoster: [xeno]Solidus @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:01 am     
Wow I didnt think we would be playing you guys. I underestimated your team, nice work.
CommentPoster: [RNA]system@tic @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:13 pm     
thanks man gj to you guys as well so far, at the start of the season, noone including myself would have pick our teams to be in the championship, but here we are :D
CommentPoster: WAffle @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:36 pm     
solidus in back to back finals.... experience in the MLUT playoffs edge would go to cannibalism just because sol was the mvp of MLUT 3 playoffs... and cause as of like 6 months ago he was dio (laff cause clans dont matter too much anymore since there are no tourneys ect..) but in reality that stuff doesnt matter.... 2cfs beat us 4v3 1/4 (1/4 = me) but they are a tough team and have 4 starters that can step it up at any given time.... its good to see a couple teams without huge egos (minus crow's wannabe ego) goin at it...

o and crow might as well not reply to this cause i wont read it again till after the match to see who won, and will not get into a debate with you about anythign cause it will make me feel less educated

CommentPoster: [xeno]bullet @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:19 pm     
Just like I thought....Heres my prediction.
Cannibalism will defeat 2cfs....My kid Solly will be the deciding factor....By the way, I own Sol in 1v1s, You know it Sol.


CommentPoster: [RNA]system@tic @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:48 pm     
your kid sol??? from what I hear he is the one that taught you. That would make him your daddy ;)
CommentPoster: .:RNA:.Cameltoe @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:37 pm     
I'm cool with being the underdog...pretty sure that's how it's been all season
CommentPoster: axiSs @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:01 pm     
okay well a problem comes up here. now that we're sure who we're playing and when, i want to ask you guys to postpone this match.

i saw its sunday few days ago and it was pretty bad news cuz i'm goin to detroit for the whole weekend cuz of holidays [may 1st and orthodox easter or whatever] and i'm comin bck home on monday.

so if u guyz can think of sum time and day after that that u are comfortable for both teams that'll be great.

CommentPoster: Psycho @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:24 pm     
lol gl with that crow
CommentPoster: |WallyFSU| @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:01 pm     
That sucks crow :( I had to miss the finals in the first season so I'm sorry to say that there will be no postponement
CommentPoster: [RNA]system@tic @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:11 pm     
+1 for the team with good depth ;)
CommentPoster: [xeno]Solidus @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:41 pm     
Cmon wally, if both teams agree to it, shouldnt we play on Monday instead? :( Oh that sucks man, and who knows they may call me into work this sunday and fuck me in the ass to haha :P
CommentPoster: |WallyFSU| @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:58 pm     
would that happen in CTF soli? You know it would't either. Sorry that Crow may have to miss it. Once again this is a team game like System said depth is always helpfull.
CommentPoster: axiSs @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:22 pm     
its oaky we will most likely forfeit and not play the gaems, good games.
CommentPoster: axiSs @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:29 pm     
i really truly dont care if we win or lose, the point to the MLUT is to play and have fun, u wont win anything by not playing our team.

funny how a semifinals match gets a different play where an admin is present, and here we get nothing simply because the admins are out of the game.

its okay, we noobs dont deserve anything.

i'll give my team a choice to play this sunday if they want, if not have fun wally and 2cfsfas

CommentPoster: |SPLIFF| @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:53 pm     
well saif, sys and camel get home real late on mondays and i will be out of town from mon-wed. so sunday seems like the best time. but i dunno.
CommentPoster: Max]I[muS-X @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:06 pm     
You mean to say you just got done kissing Possibly Stoned's feet for them letting the game be played later, and the same won't be done to another team? Wow.
CommentPoster: |SPLIFF| @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:24 pm     
from what i recall undertow was late as well. i never said we shouldnt postpone the match. just saying that sun might be the best date for us. unless u wanna wait til later in the week.
CommentPoster: Max]I[muS-X @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:34 pm     
We don't even have admins or UTV anymore, why are we restricted to a pre-set date for this? Wouldn't it be better if both teams decided on a good date in the week?
CommentPoster: {51}Vertigo @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:56 pm     
ummmm, what do you mean we dont have admins?
CommentPoster: Hunter @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:59 pm     
No offence Cannibalism, but why should we should we reschedule the match? Granted, PS was kind enough to change our match time to 10:00pm, which did not start till roughly 10:40pm, but it was still played on the same day as it was scheduled - System had asked if we could played Tuesday, but Hoss refused. I for one hate playing on Mondays, especially with how most of my team isn't readily available until around 10:30pm, and I'd rather not start past 11:00pm.

2cfs as a whole has always fielded 4 players, even if it was not our top 4, on our match days and gotten them played in a somewhat timely fashion. Also note that in our last match vs PS, we played 6 different people on our team. Not being able to play on the scheduled date just because one of your top 4 cannot play isn't fair to the lower ranked players of your team or to my team.

If you guys need more time to get your team together for Sunday, we would probably not have a problem waiting till like 10:00-10:30pm to start. But rescheduling the match altogether just for one person is too much of an inconvience to everyone.

CommentPoster: {51}Vertigo @ Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:01 pm     
guys this reschedule rule is one that has been stuck by faithfully since day 1, it has even happened to our team. The rosters are set 8 deep for a reason, not our faults if yall didnt prepare the backups in case they needed to play. Now lets say we decided to go ahead and allow for a reschedule for this match, makes it look bad since theres prolly been other reschedules denied along the way. This rule is put into play to avoid certain situations like the one that caused utc 3 to never be finished.
CommentPoster: Max]I[muS-X @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:47 am     
By no admins, I meant nobody is even adminning matches anymore, or at least not that I've seen recently. So really it boils down to two groups of 4 people willingly getting together and playing a game. There's no prize if you win, no reason to play than to just play. We have also played games where we didn't have our top four, and I've showed up for every match. My point was, if it's just players getting together to have fun in a tourney, why not enjoy the finals with full line-ups?
CommentPoster: Outkast|k| @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:43 am     
Vertigo your wrong here, everyone is completely wrong here. you HAVE in fact allowed reschedules, one for the NCAA TOURNY, and for other personal reasons. Not to mention How you wally, and everyone else, reemed me for not allowing a resched of MLOUT'S final's match against Apollo's team. Funny thing was, I didn't care my own team was the players who voted against it. Yet, I got the heat as usual. Point is your being hypocrits
CommentPoster: {51}Vertigo @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:25 am     
dont tell me i am being a hypocrite....i have no knowledge of these reschedules. And further more dont call me out as being wrong, if these things were done against the rules it wasnt anything i knew of.
CommentPoster: |WallyFSU| @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:02 am     
i never said shit to you about refusing to play 3v3's it was your call as the captain what to do. If I was admining at the begining of this season I would have never allowed the reschedule for the NCAA game however they did it and even hoss said to forfeit them because he didn't care The lack of admins present now is because the 4 of us have a lot to do Hoss is graduating this semester with finals, I have some important shit that I'm taking care of and the ones that I've talked to and care to give that information too know why I'm not around and unfortunately it's taking my time at night and vertigo has bowling on wednesday nights.

Use your team and play your matches it's not that hard to do.

CommentPoster: axiSs @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:32 pm     

these are the screenies from the last match, since noone wants to update them,although i sent them to admin 2 days ago.

i guess this is a nice to end this MLUT :)

if my team plays this match or not, it doesnt matter i give everything in solidus's hands.
ggs to 2cfs.
we know who's the real winner here anyways.

CommentPoster: |SPLIFF| @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:39 pm     
and who's the real winner???
CommentPoster: Hunter @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:04 pm     
::pulls out his tiny violin for crow::

I guess we are since we're the only ones willing to play on the scheduled date and time.

Oh, and Outkast, please tell me how I am being a hypocrit when I've never asked to reschedule the date and/or time of ANY of my teams matches.

CommentPoster: Xm-SA][F @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:13 pm     
lol at the winner thing. why cant we play later sunday night?
CommentPoster: Max]I[muS-X @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:55 pm     
By the way Wally, I wasn't complaining about the lack of admins. I was just saying since we don't even need them present anymore, what's stopping us from just rescheduling to get the best date for all of us. If we're the only ones that are going to be involved with the match, why not?
CommentPoster: |WallyFSU| @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:19 pm     
Then what's the point of having any rules at all if the teams agree to go against the rules? Point is having them, point of having a date for things to be played is so things can be played on time. So say you can't play this sunday. You try to reschedule for this day but this player can't make it that day, then you try and reschedule for another day and someone on your team now can't make it. The point of this league is for fun yes but it was also created so we could still have some competition. By allowing any type of extenstion your just looking towards a UTC 3 where the match never gets played. For those that don't know UTC3 was mulletmen vs BMF best 3 of 5 the first 3 maps were played and the rest never got finished as a date could never get set and no admins made them play by a certain date. You have an 8 man roster. This is not a league where only your top 4 play. I would like this to be played and i guess if you choose not too play on the specified date that's in then your guys decision. But don't be surprised to see an admin decision on things if it's not played on sunday. You can also put blame on ABS for fucking with the site. The normal rules would allow you drop crow and pick up someone in the free agents pool so you could have a competitive 4 to play, however because of all the mess the rosters are locked for the completion of the playoffs because all the prices were messed up.
CommentPoster: Max]I[muS-X @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:57 pm     
I don't think that would happen in this case... I mean, sure it's happened before, but that doesn't guarantee that all of us will just forget about the match. I see your point though, but I also disagree with it to an extent. I also don't think this is an outright "changing of rules" insomuch that it changes the gameplay. It's a change of match date, and only in the special case of the finals.
CommentPoster: |WallyFSU| @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:18 pm     
Can you answer this question then. Why should a league make special arrangements for 1 player when the teams consist of 8 players? In season II condiment king wasn't able to make it and neither could apollo but they fieled a team of 3 players even though the match did not get played via admin decision in the end because they could not play on the specified date.

Taken from season 2:
Champions decided [ Edit ] [ Delete ] [ Lock ]
Posted By: Gokuh @ 28 Apr 2004 19:49 \\ Comments: 0

More Leftovers Under Table have been declared winners of the second installment of MLTDM.

HTBC refused to play tonight because one of their starters was unavailable. The option of a 3vs3 was given, but they rejected that as well. The rules state in case of a situation when a team cannot field four starters, they will receive a forfeit loss. However, because this is the finals, I allowed More Leftovers Under Table to decide whether or not the match should be postponed. Unfortunately, due to school finals all next week, MLUT wishes the rule to be enforced and to receive the forfeit win. Any postponement longer than a week will just cause the tournament to drag out. Avoiding it will prevent any future aggravation.

Note to future captains:

DRAFT YOUR TEAMS WISELY. Remember, there is a total of seven players per team, not four.

Now why should we change? When this is the 4th season and players should have come to term with the rules by now. If you guys want to play 3v3 I'm all for it. But if 2cfs refuses then so be it. If both teams come to an agreement to play on a different day then so be it. But I am sure the admin staff will try to follow the rules as closely as possible.

» Last edited by |WallyFSU| on Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:27 pm, edited 1 time in total
CommentPoster: [RNA]system@tic @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:22 pm     
the finals are to deciede which team is the better overall team, and if you need an excemption from a rule then you can't consider yourself a "championship quality" team :P LOL...... well all bullshitting aside I'd like there to be another mlut or some sort of tournament and I think that allowing a postponement here would set a dangerous precident, and by signing up for the tournament you agree to play by the rules, just my opinion.
CommentPoster: |WallyFSU| @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:31 pm     
as for a 5th season neither myself or hoss will be involved in any aspect of admining. So if you'd like to continue on with MLTDM I suggest someone step up now and contact Moose or Zilch into opening up MLTDM 5 captains signups
CommentPoster: Max]I[muS-X @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:58 pm     
Well I don't know about any of you, but I signed up for this thing mainly for fun, I didn't take it like it was some ultra-serious tournament. Yes, rules are good, they maintain order and all that, but essentially a 3v4 final just isn't going to be "fun". I can't help the way the team I am on was drafted, and I haven't complained any other match when we someone was unable to make the date. But you'd think after all these games and build-up for the final game, the people playing would like a good game. Frankly I don't care if you guys are called the MLTDM champions right now and we play a "final" game just for fun, I just wanted to play a good match-up with the desired line-ups. Whatever though, if it means that much to you you can just have it.
CommentPoster: NoAimNoMoves @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:01 pm     
Can't play this.... Same night as mlctf playoffs. CTF > TDM Please reshedule to a different date.
CommentPoster: [RNA]system@tic @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:18 pm     
the problem is none of the nights are going to be perfect for everyone so the game will continue to be pushed back if it is delayed once, I'm ready for a break from the game so I'd kinda like to get it played. You mean to tell me you actually only have 4 players that show to matches?
CommentPoster: |SPLIFF| @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:23 pm     
well lets say we reschedule. monday is no good for us and i will be afk mon-wed. i know thursday is bad for crow. so that leaves fri and saturday which are days ppl go out. so i dont know what u guys wanna do. i wanna get this played with both teams at full strength but like wally said now we're just pushing it back and it eventually might not get played.
CommentPoster: axiSs @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:02 pm     
as long as its after 10 i can come to a match by running a mile or kilometer its not a problem for me, i can play any day in the week except this sunday or saturday.

however, i would like to place one single interesting question: how did the final date gets to be a sunday when whole playoffs are on monday and wednesday because of CTF being at the same time -> which is the case here.

and what maximus said if u really want to have the title have it lol
i really dont care. it just shows what kind of people you are lol

and if my team actually plays we will have 4 players but its not the same team that beat all these amazing teams...

i say again, ggs to 2cfs and i hope u had _f_u_n_.

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